From: rja.carnegie@excite.com (Robert Carnegie) Subject: Re: Stop the Microsoft Incursion! Date: 6 Nov 2001 02:15:11 -0800 References: <20011104221700.A22522@egps.egps.com> "Nachman Yaakov (Yankel) Ziskind" <awacs@egps.com> wrote in message news:<20011104221700.A22522@egps.egps.com>... > Our shop (which has our Unix box doing application/file/print > /mail/DNS services, etc.) just invited in a consultant to look > over the NT side (1% of our revenues, 30% of our resources :-( ) > to 'suggest'. Of course, his first 'suggestion' was to buy a new > Win2K server and assign it everything. In addition, he'd like to > replace the routers, hubs and backup software with stuff *he* > likes. $70k PLUS $125/hour installation time. > > I have my doubts about this, of course, but my boss (who is > *usually* quite reasonable [=listens to me]) told me to 'have an > open mind', whatever that means. Now the NT servers, apart from > the continual maintenance, have been reasonably stable, OTOH, > when the SCO box last PANICed, Bill Clinton was President. > > So, if any of you could volunteer suggestions, facts, lies or > what-have-you (I was particularly thinking about Tony Lawrence > here - he has *such* a way with words!), I would gratefully > accept. On Windows, you could say that you can't even buy Windows 2000 any more, only Windows XP, and you can't buy that either, they only charge you an annual rent which is as much as MS says it is. None of this is strictly and absolutely true but it should effectively scare the heck out of the boss.
Incidentally, using a Windows server for everything isn't even recommended by Microsoft. They say, one server, one service; a multiple-function server will be overloaded. This way, they get to sell more servers. This advice is at www.microsoft.com and it helps to make your consultant (as you report him) look bad. Mind you, what's a Windows consultant going to do except recommend Windows solutions? Let's suppose he's relatively honest and he's recommended the best Windows solution that he can think of. It's up to you to argue that that solution is not significantly better than what you already have. As for scrapping your network and backup hardware - if the kit that you've got is doing what you need to do now, and will continue to meet your needs for, oh, a couple of years more - if it's secure against exploits, and supported against future exploits, and if parts can be replaced as needed - then why the heck spend money that you don't need to spend? If it isn't exploit-proof inside and out, the guy might have a point. Perhaps your network infrastructure isn't up to giving you Windows XP NetMeeting full-motion video on every desktop. Well, it doesn't need to be. You could pull up some reports on why no-one much needs or wants video phones - cool as they are. Bonus points for finding faults with the specific systems that the consultant recommends. Heck, everything has bugs, and responsible manufacturers document them online; obtain that documentation and use it ruthlessly. Are you the BOFH or aren't you?
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