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uucp and xc

I don't know who is right or wrong here, but I do know that UUCP actually still is useful - it can run over TCP/IP and it takes away any concern of networks being temporarily unavailable - if you copy a file with UUCP, it WILL get to the other server as soon as links are available.

UUCP does its own scheduling, you set its own retry intervals and you get detailed logging. You coud duplicate all this (and I'm sure people have) but why would you?

You can even get UUCP for Windows..

From: swertz@scruznet.com
Subject: Re: sco openserver - communication librairy or software
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sco.misc
Message-ID: <3oKZ3.92205$YB4.3241392@typ12.nn.bcandid.com> 
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 04:18:07 GMT

Jean-Pierre Radley <jpr@jpr.com> wrote:
> swertz@scruznet.com opined (on Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 01:59:46AM +0000):
> | I think you want kermit.  Any net search will point you to it.
> | It's been a while since I've used 'xc', but I'd think that would
> | do it also.  If you want to pay for a commercial product, then
> | try Blast.

> Why? As the principal authir of xc, don't you think I would have
> suggested it?

Not necessaryily.  I'm just offering options for what I think
he wants to do, rather them telling him what he should do.  

> Scripting either kermit or xc to do what he wants is doabnle, but silly.
> Uucp is what he ought to use.

I think he wants instant notification.  Somewhat like a shell script
that says send this, did it work, if not send it again.  Then send this...

He may relize that eventually he should use UUCP, but the way I see it,
he would have a hard time writing a bunch cron jobs or moderately
more complicated shell scripts, while learning UUCP.

Admittedly, A "while not uustat -m|grep systemname SUCCESS sleep" would
pretty much have the same effect, and you don't have to worry
about other software messing with your modems.  Setting up modems
and machines to use UUCP also sets them up for suite of other standard 
utilities that may be necessary at some time or another, anyway.

Yes, I'd use UUCP too, but if I didn't _know_ UUCP as well as I do....

-sw


> | Carl Mailloux <servtech@mediom.qc.ca> wrote:

> | 
> | > Jean-Pierre Radley a crit dans le message
> | > <19991119185357.E5481@jpradley.jpr.com>...
> | >>Carl Mailloux opined (on Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 10:08:20PM -0500):
> | >>| James R. Sullivan <jim@sco.com> a crit dans le message :
> | >>| 38342C0E.F58B128F@sco.com...
> | >>| > Carl Mailloux wrote:
> | >>| >
> | >>| > > I search a lib in c or c++ or a software that allow to transfert
> | >>| > > file by modem. If it's a software, I would like to know if the
> | >>| > > transfert is a success or if the transfert have failed when the
> | >>| > > program terminate. For this reason, eliminate uucp or software
> | >>| > > that require a call to command pppattach.
> | >>|
> | >>| > why eliminate uucp or ppp? uustat could give you the job status.  If
> | >>| > you used ppp, you could then use rcp and check the status that way.
> | >>| > Needs some lateral thinking, but probably better than building your
> | >>| > own communication tools from scratch.
> | >>|
> | >>| I must do a telecommunication station that do not need operator. With
> | >>| uucp, it's difficult to do the monitoring of the job. I don't know if
> | >>| uucp is processing the transfert or do nothing.etc.
> | >>
> | >>Difficult?  Typing 'uulog' is difficult?
> | >>
> | > Is difficult if you do not have person to type them and check them
> | 
> | >>I am under the impression that you never even tried to use uucp.
> | >>Have you used it?
> | > Yes
> | 
> | >>And what information are your missing about what it
> | >>needs to do, or what it already did?
> | >>
> | > Every night, I must send data on many server. When the transfert is
> | > processed, he do not have a person to check the job. If it have any failure,
> | > I must use an other telecommunication technologie to inform the person of
> | > the failure. If I am not able to do a good monitoring with script or
> | > software, I am not able to inform a person of the failure. uucp work good if
> | > you have an operator to check the processing.
> | 
> | > Carl Mailloux
> | > servtech@mediom.qc.ca
> | 
> | 

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