From: Tony Lawrence <tony@pcunix.com> Subject: Re: Mac OSX Terminal dump/restore question Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 10:31:39 GMT Mark Conrad wrote: > In article <eckleinspammenot-8E20C9.18064604022003@news.newsguy.com>, > Ernie Klein <eckleinspammenot@pacbell.net> wrote: > > >>I point this out because you seem to think that if you don't understand >>all of the options for a new command you are learning, then you are >>missing something and get frustrated. > > > Yep,it is my curious nature. I figure it won't do much harm if I go > over any options of interest, once lightly. Might pay off big time in > the future when I have a need for that option, assuming I can find my > notes about it. > > Is there an easy way to use the inode number to display all the inode > data about a file? > > I noted that the man page for "ls" describes the "i" option as listing > the "file serial number".<g> Any file system debugger can display a particular inode. However, the only information there that is not readily available other ways (ls -l etc.) is the actual storage allocation, which is seldom of interest, although that info would give you knowledge of file fragmentation if you felt you needed to know that (and for a lot of reasons, you probably don't)
On a system that has the somewhat common "fsdb" (Mac OS X does not) you could dump out inode 54618 with echo "54618i" | fsdb /dev/root What is interesting is this comment from <http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/usenix2000/invitedtalks/sanchez_html> "It is worth noting that the difference is behavior is in part due to the implementation of the respective filesystems. In UFS, meta-data is store with the file's inode, and inodes are stored separately from file data. In HFS+, the file meta-data is stored with the file data; there is no inode. "
And yet, we can apparently ACT as though these did have inodes: hard links work, ls -li displays a number that is relevant, etc. <http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn1150.html> talks about how HFS+ is implemented, but doesn't explain how that part of the abstraction works. -- Tony Lawrence Free SCO, Mac OS X and Linux Skills Tests: http://aplawrence.com/skillstest.html
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