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From: bv@wjv.comREMOVE (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Which Backup solution?
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Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:57:14 GMT

In article <8oT2zQbOjNB@zocki.toppoint.de>,
Rainer Zocholl <UseNet-Posting-73331-@zocki.toppoint.de> wrote:
>  (Brian Lavender)  23.06.03 in /comp/unix/sco/misc:

>>I am creating a backup solution for a system I am building that will
>>run an orthodontists application. The solution needs to produce
>>verified backup media that can be used to restore the system if the
>>drive crashes plus produce media that can be taken offsite.  ...

[deletia - wjv]

>I found lone-tar much more complicate to install than Microlite.
>Microlite installs it self almost "alone", finds always
>all devices.

I've not noticed that.  I have clients that user both and they also
support different HW platforms - so in some instances I the one
that supports the HW.   The current versions are pretty
straightforward - on both - as far as I'm concerned. 
The interface is decidedly different.

...

>Disadvantage of microlite:

...

> The errormails could be more detailed too.
> ("3 files failed to verify". Why are the names not mentioned?

We'll I'd just as soon not have them in email, and ssh to the site
and see the files instead of having [possibly] huge emails sent to
me.

I get daily messages from a couple of local SCO Microlite users
and one from a remote Lone-Tar [DC area] BSD list-server. I don't
need huge mails in my mailbox when if there are problems I need
to get into the system to see the problem.

The approaches are different in the BackupEdge sends a combined
message while the LoneTar sends a message on backup completion and
another at the completion of verify.   That's a basic design
choice.

> It's annyoing to go to the customer site and see it's only ntp.log
> and ntpstat, wow.. ;-( .

Well on clients I ssh in. If you have to physically go to a customer
then I can see why you'd like more information.  Maybe it should be
a user configurable option?

> Remote backups required root permissions on both systems.
> That's generally no good idea but mircolite staff thinks it's
> ok... ;-(

Two-sided coin - or sword.  If you don't limit the backups to root
what is to prevent non-root users from accessing the backup.
Non-root would be a big security hole if the machine was accessible
via the net.

>Does someone ever try "unitrends" products?

I had some client's that used to use it - but none recently.
A couple of years ago I 'lent' Steve a machine to compile an SGI
version of core.  [That was remote access - the machine stayed
here]


>>What backup media do I use?

>>I am thinking some sort of tape backup. The amount of data I will be
>>backing up is under 2 Gigs, plus the install of OSR 5.0.7. I looked at
>>SCO's page regarding tape drives, and here is what I found.
>>http://wdb1.sco.com/chwp/owa/hch_search_corp.action

>>I am not sure if tape is the way to go. Should I use Tape, or should I
>>go with some sort of DVD device?

>In which time range you are sure the 4,7GB of a DVD will be still
>sufficient?

It's just a matter of time for most systems.

Bill

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Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com

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