Consider that any backup software has to first find the files it has to backup. If you time a "find / > /dev/null" it often not insignificant.
As Tom points out below, backing up small files really cuts performance because every one of them needs its own header even if the file itself is empty!
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sco.misc From: tom@microlite.com (D. Thomas Podnar) Subject: Re: scsi bus bottleneck?????? Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 14:20:30 GMT Message-ID: <200005061420.KAA24770@mlite.microlite.com> : Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote: : : On Fri, 5 May 2000 20:59:12 -0400, "Michel Donais" <donais@gsig-net.qc.ca> : wrote: : : >The System is operated under Sco openserver 5.0.4p : >Main board: Gigabyte GA-6BXU 440xBX-ATX : >Processor : Pentium III 450mhz : >This system have an onboard Ultra2 SCSI - LVD : > interface and an Ultrawide SCSI interface. : >Scsi Chipset is an Adaptec AIC-7890P : >On the Ultra2 - LVD I have a Quantum 9.1gig Atlas 10k : >and a tape drive Tandberg SLR-100 : : Oh-oh... why Oh-oh? : : >The speed of the tape should be 18gig/hr uncompressed : >and 36 gig/hr compressed. : : My guess is that you should get about 15MBytes/min uncompressed, and : 80MBytes/min compressed. But he says down below that he's getting 3233k/sec which is 189MB/min. : >The hardware tape command is set to compress/uncompress. : : >The best speed I got compressed is near 3233k/sec around : >12gig hour. The speed is nearly the same as if I set Tape command : >to plain uncompress backup. : : >Is there a way to clear or avoid what I think is a bottleneck on the : >ultra2-lvd Scsi bus. : : Yep. Do NOT share the SCSI Ultra2 LVD bus with the DAT drive. Get a : seperate SCSI bus or board. Mixing SCSI technologies on a single bus will : function by switching it to the radically reduced single ended mode and will : not deliver optimimum performance. 1) The Tandberg HAS an LVD interface. He is not mixing SCSI technologies. 2) The Tandberg SLR-100 is NOT a DAT drive. It is an SLR (QIC) drive. 3) The Tandberg has an 8MB buffer which is quite a bit bigger than many other tape drives. : SCSI Trade Association FAQ (See Question #1 and #4). : http://www.scsita.org/experts/SCSI_ExpertFAQ.html : -- : Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060 : (831)421-6491 pgr (831)426-1240 fax (831)336-2558 home : http://www.cruzio.com/~jeffl WB6SSY : jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us jeffl@cruzio.com Michel, The biggest question may be how much data you are really writing. On a Unix system, just installing the base operating system leaves files all over the place. During a normal backup there is a lot of overhead, scanning the directory track, getting the data, writing small things like device nodes, etc. which keeps your backup software pipeline from staying full all the time, and the files are reasonable small. Plus there is a lot of startup overhead when you begin a backup that takes up some of that time and skews the number slightly. Double buffering backup software can help, as can the fact that most double buffering can be tuned for increased performance. 189MB/min is quite acceptable on a sysem with many or mostly small files. Lots of people on this group would kill for that. If you had a lot of 500MB and larger databases, where the OS could transfer the data to the drive faster, you'd probably see better performance. Using one of the crash recovery products to do a backup, re-create your filesystems, and do a restore can also help improve performance, as all the files will be laid back down on the hard drive in reasonably contiguous fashion, and the OS will be able to back them up faster. Tom --- D. Thomas Podnar - President tom@microlite.com Email Microlite Corporation 724-375-6711 Voice 2315 Mill Street 724-375-6908 Fax Aliquippa PA 15001-2228 888-257-3343 Toll Free Sales +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The Crash Recovery Company(sm) | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Makers of Microlite BackupEDGE - Data Archiving Software For Unix/Linux. | | and Microlite RecoverEDGE - The Smart Crash Recovery Software with | | Network Support for Linux, UnixWare 7.1,| | OpenServer 5.0.x and Unix 3.2v4.2. | |http://www.microlite.com ftp://ftp.microlite.com | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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